Ever felt like you’re the only one drowning in the chaos of entrepreneurship while everyone else is thriving? You’re not alone. I sat down with power couple Kass and Mike Lazerow to talk about what it really takes to build businesses, survive failure, and stay married through all the messy middle.
They share how they lost everything, clawed their way back, and built multiple companies—together—without pretending everything was fine when it wasn’t. We talk about what it means to “shovel the sh*t,” how to lead through crisis without faking it, and why transparency and uncomfortable conversations are your greatest leadership tools.
So, if you’ve ever felt like you’re hustling in the dark and wondering if you’re doing it wrong, this episode is for you. Remember to grab your copy of Kass and Mike’s book, Shoveling $h!t, to join their founder community. You don’t have to shovel alone!
In this Episode
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Meet Kass and Mike Lazerow
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The story behind ‘Shoveling $h!t’
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Real stories of entrepreneurial challenges
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Lessons learned in transparency and leadership
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How to hold tough conversations with employees
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Balancing life and entrepreneurship as a couple
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A proven system of prioritizing tasks and making decisions
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Navigating business partnerships
The value of personal branding
Entrepreneurship lessons from ‘Shoveling Shit’
Final thoughts on entrepreneurship